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Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 05:16 pm: | |
Well, I'm almost in the home stretch of my line edits and Terri Windling is working on the introduction to this non-theme, all original fantasy anthology edited by me and Terri. One of the contributors just noted that the book is mentioned in Thunder's Mouth online catalog, as well as on Amazon as a fall title. Yikes! I thought it was coming out in 07. No wonder our editor is in such a rush. Book will be handed in, in a week and a half!
Table of Contents will be announced when book is handed in. But a number of folk on the BBs here are in it :-) |
PM
| | Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 06:15 pm: | |
Amazon has it listed for September.
Don't keep 'em waiting 
Any anectodes to share? |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Monday, May 01, 2006 - 09:04 pm: | |
Yes, I saw that.
We're figuring out the order of stories now. (although we're waiting for one story from someone who will not be named). |
Kelly Christopher Shaw
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 06:49 am: | |
I'm really looking forward to seeing the contents of this. If the synopsis on Amazon is true, and the collection will contain stories by Link, Shepard, Ford, and others, this may be the antho to beat in '06. |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 08:37 am: | |
Well, there are some authors who are listed there who are NOT in the book. Susanna Clarke was working on something for us but has been sick in bed since before December. There's no Lanagan either. However, there are Ford, Shepard, and (we're praying she's in time) Link, among others :-) |
Kelly Christopher Shaw
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 10:44 am: | |
I'll cross my fingers for the Link. Thanks. |
Spencer Pate
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 12:37 pm: | |
A new Link story would be a cause for celebration. |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 12:43 pm: | |
There's one in The Coyote Road, but that won't be out till 07. |
Jonathan Strahan
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 07:49 pm: | |
Hi Ellen - Great news about Salon Fantastique! Though the sudden deadline change would freak me out a little, I'm really excited to see the book coming out. Can't wait to see it and Coyote Road. And, now that Kelly's finished her enormous novella for me, hopefully she'll be able to get your story in on time.
J |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 02, 2006 - 08:43 pm: | |
Hey Jonathan. I'm kind of glad it's coming out this year too, as it means I have two books coming out now: YBFH #19 and Salon Fantastique--so I won't be completely forgotten and ignored quite yet :-) |
Kelly Christopher Shaw
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 07:22 am: | |
"...now that Kelly's finished her enormous novella for me."
Jonathan, you can't throw that out and not share more – what collection is this "enormous" Kelly Link novella for? Thanks. |
Richard Parks
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 08:04 am: | |
"I'm kind of glad it's coming out this year too, as it means I have two books coming out now: YBFH #19 and Salon Fantastique--so I won't be completely forgotten and ignored quite yet :-)"
Oh, like _that's_ going to happen. |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 09:21 am: | |
Hey, Richard. Editors come and go over the years (sniff) but thank you for warming my cold editorial heart :-) |
Spencer Pate
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 03, 2006 - 01:06 pm: | |
Yeah, Jonathan, you've got to throw us a few hints about the novella! :-) |
Jonathan Strahan
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 02:14 am: | |
It's a 20,000 word piece called "The Surfer". It's set in a near-future Costa Rica. It's science fiction, or as close to SF as Kelly's been. It will be in The Starry Rift, sometime in mid-2007. |
Kelly Christopher Shaw
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 06:24 am: | |
Thanks Jonathan. 20,000 new words from Kelly Link! That's worth the price of admission itself. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the TOC for your book. |
Spencer Pate
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 11:01 am: | |
Cool! I'm already excited to see what sf from Kelly Link will be like. |
sharyn november
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 06:28 pm: | |
me too. |
Jonathan Strahan
| | Posted on Thursday, May 04, 2006 - 11:25 pm: | |
Hey Ellen. I really like the cover for Salon Fantastique. I see they've just put it up on the Publishers Group West website. |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 08:20 am: | |
Ok, we've handed in the mss to our publisher and here's the TOC (there still might be a last minute addition if Kelly finishes her story):
La Fée Verte Delia Sherman
Dust Devil on a Quiet Street Richard Bowes
To Measure the Earth Jedediah Berry
A Grey and Soundless Tide Catherynne M. Valente
Concealment Shoes Marly Youmans
The Guardian of the Egg Christopher Barzak
My Travels With Al-Qaeda Lavie Tidhar
Chandail Peter Beagle
Down the Wall Greer Gilman
Femaville 29 Paul Di Filippo
Nottamun Town Gregory Maguire
Yours, Etc. Gavin Grant
The Mask of ’67 David Prill
The Night Whiskey Jeffrey Ford
The Lepidopterist Lucius Shepard |
Spencer Pate
| | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 09:59 am: | |
I can't wait for this anthology. Is Greer Gilman's story a continuation of "Jack Daw's Pack" and "A Crowd of Bone"? |
PM
| | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 02:33 pm: | |
Hope Homeland Security doesn't overreact to the TOC tick TOC, tick TOC...
Looking forward to vocabulary building with Shepard.
Crossing fingers that Kelly makes it cross the line. |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 07:23 pm: | |
Spencer. Nope it isn't. It's a kind of post-apocalypse tale (I think).
Lucius's story is in a very different style for him and is only 6700 words long! |
PM
| | Posted on Monday, May 15, 2006 - 09:58 pm: | |
6700 words you say...maybe he's savin' up for Playboy
I'm sure that this will be an enjoyable volume and look forward to it. |
Kelly Christopher Shaw
| | Posted on Thursday, June 01, 2006 - 01:44 pm: | |
Just wondering if Link submitted her story in time to be included in Salon Fantastique? Thanks. |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Sunday, June 04, 2006 - 12:57 am: | |
Afraid not. |
Kelly Christopher Shaw
| | Posted on Monday, June 05, 2006 - 06:34 am: | |
Too bad. Thanks. |
Jennifer Ruth Corry
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 04:53 pm: | |
Wow, I can't believe I'm actually on the same discussion board as Ellen Datlow and Sharyn November. Ms. Datlow, I've enjoyed you and Terry Windling's fantastic work for almost two years now and I'm a voracious collector of it. Ms. November, I've just recently discovered your brilliant "Firebirds" anthologies and look eagerly forward to the next one. Just wanted to say thank you both for the awesome books you've put together! You and all the authors in your collections have made reading an even greater joy than it already was. |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 08:54 pm: | |
Jennifer, my first reaction is "did my mom contact you?" (just kidding). Thanks so much. I hope you continue to enjoy the anthologies I edit. I'll have three originals coming out in 2007 and one guest edited issue of Subterranean Magazine. |
Jennifer Ruth Corry
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 08, 2006 - 10:10 pm: | |
I can't believe I'm on the same board as Ellen Datlow and Sharyn November! Ms. Datlow, I've been enjoying you and Terri Windling's brilliant work for the past two years and am a voracious collector. Ms. November, I just recently discovered your fantastic Firebirds series and eagerly await the third anthology. I just wanted to thank you both for your wonderful work. You've made reading an even greater joy than it already was |
Jennifer Ruth Corry
| | Posted on Thursday, August 10, 2006 - 01:20 pm: | |
I definetly will continue to enjoy them. I'm already looking forward to the subject of interest, Salon Fantastique. Thanks for listing the table of contents, as it's nice to know which authors to look forward to. Too bad Link couldn't make it. |
Jennifer Ruth Corry
| | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 06:05 pm: | |
It's a shame this board didn't post my first message on time; I thought it hadn't been posted at all, so when I submitted my second post, I made it almost identical to the first. (I'm a bit slow with computers, can you tell?) |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Thursday, August 17, 2006 - 10:06 pm: | |
Jennifer,
Don't worry about it.
Hopefully Sharyn will come back over here one of these days to see the nice things you said about her work too. :-) |
sharyn november
| | Posted on Saturday, August 26, 2006 - 04:45 pm: | |
haha, i did. and thank you so much! but i need to edit both ellen and terri's and jonathan's books. so, back to it. |
Jennifer Ruth Corry
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 06:24 pm: | |
Well, good luck to both of you with your work and thanks again for the great books I'll be counting the days till Salon Fantastique and the next Firebirds anthology hit the stores. |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 06:38 pm: | |
Salon Fantastique should be available any minute. I was told by my publisher that review copies have been sent out, although I haven't seen my own copies yet. |
Daniel Ausema
| | Posted on Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 08:49 pm: | |
This sounds like a great anthology! I look forward to getting my hands on a copy. |
Jamie Rosen
| | Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 07:24 am: | |
Ellen,
There is, in fact, a review of the Salon in the August issue of Locus, under the "by Divers Hands" review column. |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 07:37 am: | |
Hi Jamie,
I saw that review. I'd sent the stories out early to Rich Horton way before the book was finished. The book was produced very quickly, and there was no time for advance reader's copies/galleys. But we're still awaiting our Publishers Weekly and Kirkus reviews--the trade reviews. |
Nathan Ballingrud
| | Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 05:32 pm: | |
It did seem like it was produced very quickly, especially compared to Inferno's target date. Was this one put on the fast track? Or is Thunder's Mouth just generally faster to the printer? |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Friday, September 08, 2006 - 10:36 pm: | |
John Oakes had never commissioned an original antho before and I had to beg him to give us enough time to edit it. We still didn't have enough time...in my opinion. We could have used a couple more months. (sigh). |
Kelly Christopher Shaw
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 07:02 am: | |
"I'd sent the stories out early to Rich Horton way before the book was finished."
Maybe this is why he failed to mention Shepard's story in his review. |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 04:55 pm: | |
He received the entire mss. |
Kelly Christopher Shaw
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 09:34 pm: | |
I won't let him off the hook then: How can you not even mention a Lucius Shepard story? |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 09:43 pm: | |
Every once in awhile I doesn't mention a story in an issue of a mag or in an antho...not sure why... |
PM
| | Posted on Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 10:55 pm: | |
Shepard's a selling point for me but I wouldn't think the omission was intentional... |
Gordon Van Gelder
| | Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 02:57 pm: | |
Rich Horton has said before that he doesn't usually like Laird Barron's work and that Laird's stories remind him of Lucius Shepard's. |
Kelly Christopher Shaw
| | Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 03:52 pm: | |
If I'm remembering correctly, Horton also gave the Trujillo collection a lukewarm review. To each their own -- but a Shepard story is a Shepard story, and a reviewer has an obligation to comment on it, positively or negatively. |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 05:45 pm: | |
Kelly, as much as I love Lucius's work, I don't think a reviewer is obliged to mention every story in an anthology or magazine. |
PM
| | Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 08:53 pm: | |
I agree in spirit with Kelly and in practicality with Ellen. |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 09:31 pm: | |
;-) |
Lucius
| | Posted on Sunday, September 10, 2006 - 09:43 pm: | |
Rich Horton is a notorious firp, i.e. a guy who bites his fart bubbles in the bath tub and then takes himself way too seriously.
That could explain it. That, and the fact that he's an idiot. |
Sean Wallace
| | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 08:19 am: | |
It probably has to do more with space constraints, as he told me that was the reason for a short review of Fantasy Magazine 4. I don't have a problem with that, at all, given the circumstances, and there's no particular reason why any specific author should be mentioned, over any other, really. That's life :p |
Kelly Christopher Shaw
| | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 10:19 am: | |
In theory, I completely agree – Rich Horton doesn't have to touch Shepard's story. In reality, as a subscriber of Locus, the valuability of their magazine is only as strong as their reviewers, and the books those reviewers decide to cover. For me, as that trusty subscriber, the magazine loses value and the reviewer credibility, when a Shepard story isn't tackled head on. I mean, come on, we're not talking about a newbie here – Shepard's a frickin' genre establishment unto himself. And his work demands to be covered. IMO. |
Scott Benenati
| | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 12:09 pm: | |
I agree with Kelly. How can you ignore Shepard? |
Lucius
| | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 12:36 pm: | |
I don't really have a problem with it either. If Rich Horton doesn't want to review my stories, it's no skin off my ass. It's not as if he's Jonathan Yardley. |
Ellen Datlow
| | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 01:33 pm: | |
I received a copy of it today and Gavin Grant says he didn't get his contributor's copy yet, but did get a review copy....So keep watching the skies! |
Jamie Rosen
| | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 02:16 pm: | |
But if it's space considerations, the reviewer would have to cut someone else's storiy from the review. If you're going to put any credence into the review itself, you shouldn't second guess the reviewer's choice of which stories to mention -- otherwise you might as well skip the review entirely. |
Bruce Chrumka
| | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 02:59 pm: | |
I noticed from the ToC that Mr. Shepard's 'The Lepidopterist' has the coveted last position in the anthology which implies that it's a particularly strong story, in what looks like a killer line-up. Odd Rich Horton overlooked it.
Mr. Horton also missed commenting on stories by Gregory Maguire, David Prill, Peter Beagle, Greer Gilman and Catherynne M. Valente, so he's an equal-opportunity ignorer. Looking forward to this one. |
PM
| | Posted on Monday, September 11, 2006 - 03:22 pm: | |
The average reader isn't going to know what the fuck is going on. Whether Horton hears the Who or whatever if/when the reviewer is gargling due to political/personal preferences spare me the spit.
As a reviewer either identify those conflicts or potential conflicts of interest or recuse yourself. |
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