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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 07:01 am:   

How many people read both magazines? What do you think of the two?

Is it me, or has the existance of Realms of Fantasy pushed F&SF more toward the SF side of the aisle in recent years? (I know there is a thread on fantasy in F&SF where some stories are listed, but it seems to me that the SF and horror has been more memorable in recent years.)
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Andrew Nicolle
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 07:28 am:   

I read both. I actually prefer F&SF because it's not so stuffed full of ads and it covers SF as well as that borderland between genres.
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Patrick Samphire
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 07:35 am:   

I prefer RoF, because they buy my stories. :-)

Actually, I like both pretty much equally. They deal in very different types of fiction, and complement each other nicely.

The adverts can often be the best bit in RoF. Just read the adverts for all those self-published books, then weep.
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 07:40 am:   

I love Gahan Wilson's book reviews in Realms, but I can live without the rest of the features. The "Past Lives" column for re-enactors and the Games column are pages that could be spent on something else, as far as I am concerned.
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T Andrews
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 07:52 am:   

I've been reading both magazines for about six years now. Only missed the occassional issue of F&SF.

I love RoF. The stories are so varied...I never know what I'll find when I open it up.
There is a 'Folkroots' column that is always interesting. It explores a particular myth or archetype, etc. which I think is valuable for the writer as well as interesting for the reader. The column is usually well-researched and written by different, aptly chosen contributors each time.
RoF used to have a 'letters to the editor' section which was a hoot...featuring the wounded egos of rejected would-be contributors and fan mail from a startlingly high percentage of penitentiary inmates. Sadly, for the last year or so, letters no longer appear! :o (It's my guess that Ms.McCarthy thought the letters were becoming entertaining in a cheap, low-brow kind of way, and so she put a classy end to it. Darn.)
Each issue of RoF features an artist. Familiar names like Brian Froud have appeared, as well as more obscure and wonderful artists from all over the world.
Each short is illustrated by a different artist, giving the issue lots of visual interest, IMO.
I gotta say, though, the choices for cover art aren't the greatest. It's always a Frazetta-esque piece, or some such 'stereotypical' High Fantasy choice, which doesn't reflect the myriad themes and styles found within. I think RoF would attract greater numbers if the cover art showed the sort of range the story choices do.
There are a couple of other features that RoF has, like game reviews, which I could do without, but that's just my taste.


I started reading F&SF rather by accident. Being more of a fantasy fan in the past, the predominantly SF cover art of F&SF turned me away. Once I read a few issues, though, I realized it wasn't all Hard SF. (Not that I don't like Hard stuff; I'll enjoy anything, as long as it's well-written, and not overly 'crafted'...I like to enjoy a 'story', not a literary show-off. But enough about me...)

I would guess that RoF hasn't influenced the direction that F&SF has taken. In fact, I haven't really noticed a shift towards the SciFi in the magazine. If anything, I think the stories are harder to classify...like the recent 'Pervert'. (Which I thought was great.)
I love the inclusion of old rarities at the back. I've never tracked one down, but enjoy hearing about them. I think it's a romantic notion, that some dusty old brainchild of a now-forgotten writer gets highlighted for a brief moment.

What the two mags have in common are consistently good specfic stories, as well as a high number of new writers ~ something a wannabe writer like myself loves to see. They also offer intelligent reviews. (I read Shepard's Bubba Ho-Tep review in F&SF last night and thought it was first-rate.)

I picked up both new issues yesterday, as a matter of fact, and can't wait to get into them.





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ET
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 07:53 am:   

I think that it's Gordon who's been pushing F&SF toward the SF side. I don't know how long RoF has been around (I have one issue and it's from 1999 -- more to come, though), but Gordon has been at F&SF around seven years, so I guess that any relation between RoF's appearance and more F&SF emphesis on SF is pure coincidence.
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John Klima
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 08:27 am:   

RoF started in 1994-5, I think. I know that Shawna was talking about the magazine at the 1994 World Fantasy convention. I read both and enjoy both for different reasons. F&SF is my favorite newstand fiction publication, however, so it always gets read before RoF.

JK
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ET
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 08:39 am:   

Yes, 1994, according to isfdb.
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ellen
Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 03:05 pm:   

I've been reading both for years (for YBFH) and I think, if anything, Gordon has been publishing more dark fantasy and horror in F&SF in the past few years rather than sf. I also think ROF has only begun to really hit its stride in the past couple of years. Before that it felt mushy-mouthed to me with no pov. I do feel the stories have become more varied in ROF lately, which is a good thing. And yes, the art is beautiful even if the covers are usually hideously tacky.
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Voyeur
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 01:31 am:   

ellen, so what's wrong with scantily-clad damsels?
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Patrick Samphire
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 01:51 am:   

The covers on RoF are indeed hideous, and I don't think they do any favours for the circulation. The covers seem to be aimed at teenage boys, but the stories are certainly for more mature, intelligent readers. I suspect that anyone buying the magazine on the strength of the cover will be too disappointed to buy it again, and those who would enjoy the stories are put off by the cover. Having said that, I don't think Shawna has much say in the cover art, which is a pity.
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John Klima
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 06:17 am:   

I have to second Ellen's assessment that RoF has really come into its own in the past few years. It always seemed hit or miss to me for the first five years it was around, but I've found stuff to enjoy in every issue for a number of years now.

I still enjoy F&SF more, but I also liked the books that Gordon edited while he was at St. Martin's Press, so that stands to reason.

JK
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Richard Parks
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 07:10 am:   

When Gordon Van Gelder picked up his World Fantasy Award last year he said something to the effect that Shawna should be getting more attention for what she's been doing with RoF, which I thought was very classy of him.
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bluejack
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 11:17 am:   

There may be a change afoot in the cover art for RoF, too. The past three covers were 2 LOTR shots and a fairly demure high fantasy painting. We'll see how it goes. I don't mind the chicks in chainmail covers per se, but I do fold the covers over if I'm reading on the bus lest people get the wrong impression as to the nature of the fantasies.

I very much like the regular column on art.
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ET
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 01:07 pm:   

Regarding wrong interpretation of covers, I once had an issue of SFX sitting on my parents' table, with the usual scantily clad actress whose head just hides the bottom of the 'F'...

Yeah, it's interesting how speculative fiction can generate these misleading covers.

I don't remember who was the writer who complained about getting stories published in magazines that made his wife suspect him.
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ellen
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 05:23 pm:   

Voyeur, they just don't interest me or accurately represent the content of the magazine (as others have said :-))

bluejack, I assume they'll use LOTR covers as long as they can get away with it--they're commercial--at least in the eyes of the publisher. I bet they go back to scantily clad females after they've wrung what they can out of LOTR.
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ellen
Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 05:24 pm:   

I believe this year is the first time I've ever taken anything from ROF for the YBFH. I never felt the stories edgy enough before (I think Terri took a couple over the years).
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Thomas R
Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 06:17 pm:   

FSF's kind of had a mixture since the beginning. I know the guidelines ask for more SF, but I'm not sure if there has been that much more in the last few years.

I have no firsthand knowledge about magazines before 1995, as I didn't subscribe to any before then.
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Tim Pratt
Posted on Saturday, February 28, 2004 - 08:58 pm:   

I've been reading both for a while. F&SF is still my favorite American magazine for fiction, but Realms of Fantasy has been publishing more and more interesting work for the past couple of years, and is growing in my esteem (and, like Patrick, I'm especially fond of RoF because they publish me!). I love Charles de Lint's book review column in F&SF -- I've found lots of things I liked via his suggestions. His taste is apparently very similar to my own.
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 01:22 pm:   

What Realms of Fantasy stories do you like?

I especially liked Tim Pratt's "The Witch's Bicycle" and the story about Captain Fantastic.

I also liked Eakin's "Still Man" from issue before the current one.
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ellen
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 01:45 pm:   

I loved "The Man Who Did Nothing" by Karen Traviss, which is the one I took for YBFH#17. But to me it's an anomaly in that it's much "tougher" than most stories published in the magazine. It reminds me somewhat of Minette Walters's novel Acid Row from 2002 that also takes place in a rundown estate (public housing) in the UK.
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Chris Dodson
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 02:11 pm:   

My favorites from last year were "The Man Who Did Nothing" and Christopher Barzak's "The Drowned Mermaid", which was from the same issue, I think.
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Josh Rountree
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 02:43 pm:   

My favorite recent ROF stories are Tim's "Romanticore" and Theodora Goss' "In the Forest of Forgetting."
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paulw
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 02:59 pm:   

Hey, let's not forget the great book review column in ROF, by Gahan Wilson and some other fellow whose name escapes me at the moment . . .
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ellen
Posted on Tuesday, March 02, 2004 - 09:41 pm:   

Yes, the reviews by Gahan and Paul Witcover (hi Paul) are excellent, as are the photo spreads on featured artists and the folklore and myth column.
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wolfie
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 04:20 am:   

ellen, and we do love those babes on the covers!
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Wednesday, March 03, 2004 - 08:29 am:   

"The Man Who Did Nothing" was terrific, and I also liked "Romanticore" very much.

Tanith Lee's "Moonblind" was one of the best takes on the werewolf legend I've read in a while. I hope that it was first in a series.
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 08:15 am:   

Just read the current issue of Realms of Fantasy, and it gave me a question about editing a magazine. Not how stories are selected for publication, but how stories are placed in an issue.

The current issue has a story in which a vampire comes to an artist and asks to have a portrait painted, as well as a story in which an angel comes to an artist and asks to have a portrait painted.

To me, having these two stories in the same issue was a mistake. It worked against the angel story in two ways. First, it appeared after the vampire story and second because the angel story was less ambitious, being about guessing the identity of the angel, while the vampire story dealt with the emotions of both vampire and artist.

Does anyone agree with me on this?
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T Andrews
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 09:40 am:   

If the stories are really well-written, I don't think it would matter where they are placed in the magazine unless it's a theme issue inwhich placement might play a stylistic role. ? I don't know. Interesting question.
I think if the angel story had been stronger it wouldn't have mattered that it followed Lee's story. I expected a bigger payoff at the end of 'Unidentified Angel'...I kept waiting for the characters to deepen.
The issue underwhelmed me overall, with the exception of Gene Wolfe's 'Cosmic Canine'.

(On a side note re: story placement, I wish stories wouldn't continue a dozen or so pages towards the back. I realize it probably fills a formatting need, but there have been times when two stories conclude, side by side, newspaper bar-style and while reading the one conclusion, my peripheral vision picks up bits of the other story's ending, thus sometimes spoiling the ending of a story I have yet to begin reading.)

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SJR
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 02:43 pm:   

I put a few copies of RoF in my guest room so my house guests would have something to read. I think several guests have gotten the wrong impression. One in particular asked me: "Umm, I just have to ask - is that porno?" To be honest, I never really considered the cover art before that. Personally, I like both magazines.
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Rob Darnell
Posted on Friday, March 12, 2004 - 07:03 pm:   

Seems that some don't like the RoF covers, and looking at the back issues, I see why. The RoF issues kind of look like Playboy issues. I certainly like the F&SF covers better, except for the most recent issue. A naked boy? Uh, thank God I didn't get a story published in THAT issue. I'd be so embarassed when people I know want to see the issue my story appeared in.
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rick bowes
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 10:34 am:   

Jeez, what a disappointment!

I saw the thread title:

F&SF vs. Realms of Fantasy

and thought it would be tag-team
wrestling or a Japanese monster
movie or something.
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Alan T. Sippola
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 02:10 pm:   


Nuh-uh, nope, nothing like that, Rick!

Just that illusion created by manipulative wizardry.


By the way, I absolutely enjoy reading your marvelous stories that appear in F&SF. ;-)

~ Alan ~
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rick bowes
Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 06:03 pm:   

Alan

Why, thank you.

Rick
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Karen Traviss
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 11:07 am:   

Re The Man Who Did Nothing: thanks for your kind comments. One day, if plied with sufficient beer at a con, I'll tell the real story behind that one...

Picking up on the artwork theme, I think RoF has the best art around, although I cringe at covers with pneumatic bodyparts. I actually bought the Berkey original and prelims for Return Stores, and if I had the wall space, I'd buy all the art RoF was kind enough to commission for my stories. Classy stuff.
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RobRoyH
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 12:38 pm:   

I read both, and have for the past 18 months or so. The quality of the fiction in ROF is quite high,,, and the Gahan Wilson reviews are great,,, and the folklore columns are generally good.

I will continue to pick up F&SF over ROF, If I had to choose, for the following reasons:

1. Too little for my money. ROF costs more per issue... but it's read and on the shelf in an afternoon. F&SF will generally keep my diverted for a couple of days.

2. The Games, and reenactor columns, (they may have dropped that one), are a waste to me.

3. It's all just short stories. I tend to enjoy and remember the longer works a lot more.



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ellen
Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 04:53 pm:   

Karen, I contacted the artist for that story as I really liked the art for it. I can't remember what happened--I don't have room on my walls for more art so I may have just dropped the idea of buying the original or a print <g>.

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T Andrews
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 09:04 am:   

I think it would be great if RoF chose the artwork of the issue's featured artist for the cover. Makes perfect sense to me...anyone have insight as to why they don't? Is it cheaper for them to use movie stills and works by prominent fantasy artists, like Luis Royo?


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ellen
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 11:54 am:   

I'm assuming it's because media tie-in covers sell better than beautiful art.
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Karen Traviss
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 01:59 pm:   

Ellen, something tells me you're an art addict too...<g>

Michael Gibbs is terrific. He did a fabulous 9/11 painting that I found very moving - I think it's on his website.
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ellen
Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 07:38 pm:   

Yeah, but I've kind of run out of room. :-)You can see some of my art on my personal website at datlow.com
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Richard Parks
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 08:41 am:   

Michael Gibbs did the illustrations for "Take a Long Step" and "How Konti Scrounged the World" and they were really fine. I wish they'd use him more often. Another really good artist is Paul Lee, who illustrated my story in the December issue.
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Karen Traviss
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 01:54 pm:   

Ellen, Jane Frank at Worlds of Wonder came up with some great ideas for cramming more canvasses into a room. If I can find her note in my file, I'll forward it.

(I'm just encouraging you, aren't I? <g>)
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ellen
Posted on Wednesday, March 17, 2004 - 02:49 pm:   

Trust me. I've done it all--anyone who has been to my apt knows <g>

Only the ceiling and no way!
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Irene Gallo
Posted on Thursday, March 18, 2004 - 07:51 am:   

Hi All,

Jumping into this late....
I just discovered this site -- It's Minz's fault.

Despite RoF's clichéd covers, I can't think of a SF/F magazine that is more dedicate to art. The gallery pages are a real treat. And they usually get at least one gem within an issue. Anybody that hires Stephen T. Johnson, (or Berkey, or Patrick Arrasmith, or....) gets my subscription money. I often wish that I had the budgets to play around with more interior art at my job.

As for the covers, I assume they are picking up second rights -- getting them highly polished commercial art for half the cost. It also takes the gamble out of what your cover will look like. (But I'm just guessing here.)

Irene
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 10:33 am:   

Anyone read the June RoF yet?

I thought "Country Life" and "Charlie the Purple Giraffe" were the two best stories this issue. "Stalking the Leopard" and "The Archer" were both okay.
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T Andrews
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 11:30 am:   

I checked my local magazine store yesterday, and there's no sign of it yet ~ probably next week.
I'm looking forward to it.
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Melissa Mead
Posted on Wednesday, April 21, 2004 - 06:36 pm:   

I've finished the front articles and am just getting to the stories.
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T Andrews
Posted on Saturday, May 22, 2004 - 12:11 pm:   

COUNTRY LIFE was great, as was ON WINDHOVER DOWN, (my two favourites) but I didn't care much for STALKING THE LEOPARD or THE ARCHER. I enjoyed THE ARCHER up until the ending...I just couldn't keep my disbelief suspended.SINGING INNOCENCE AND EXPERIENCE did a better job of handling a mythic creature set in a contemporary setting, imo. CHARLIE THE PURPLE GIRAFFE was different~I was glad to see a more off-beat sort of piece (as well as the accompanying artwork). Now I have to start into the June edition of F&SF.

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Jeff Douglas
Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 07:22 pm:   

I just bought a copy of RoF a few weeks ago. And to my dismay most of the stories--though fantasy--were based on Earth settings. I would prefer more stories in fictional settings. I don't think there are any strictly fantasy magazines that do this. I did enjoy most of the stories but I wish there was a magazine that focused on other worldly tales.

Haven't picked up F&SF yet because as some have said in previous posts, it mostly contains sci-fi stories. And though I do like sci-fi I prefer fantasy.
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Robert Burke Richardson
Posted on Sunday, June 06, 2004 - 11:32 pm:   

^Black Gate usually features a lot of non-contemporary settings. As for F&SF, there's usually a few good non-Earth settings, be they other planets or fantastic worlds.
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John Joseph Adams
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 11:04 am:   

Jeff,

Actually, we (F&SF) generally fun more fantasy than SF, though of course we do publish both.

If you like otherworldly fantasy, you'll probably want to skip our current issue (July), as it's our All-American issue and I believe all the stories take place on Earth. Though I think anyone who enjoys a good otherworldly fantasy would probably like Stoddard's "Battle of York."

But our previous issue (June) does contain two very good otherworldly fantasies -- "A Little Learning" by Matthew Hughes and "After the Gaud Chrysalis" by Charles Coleman Finlay.

John Joseph Adams
Editorial Assistant
Fantasy & Science Fiction
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Thomas R
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 02:46 pm:   

we generally fun more fantasy than SF

Oh I don't know if the Fantasy is all that fun. Some of the SF I remember as fun and some of the Fantasy as rather dark, YMMV:-)
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JJA
Posted on Monday, June 07, 2004 - 03:07 pm:   

Er... we run more fantasy than SF. Ugh.
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Shadow
Posted on Wednesday, June 09, 2004 - 08:20 pm:   

I'm a big fan of ROF! Today I picked up my first F&SF, so we'll see how that goes. I must say, I really enjoy the scantily-clad women on the covers of ROF!
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Saturday, July 03, 2004 - 08:02 am:   

Anybody read the August issue of RoF yet?

I am a subscriber, and I never received the issue in the mail. I broke down and bought a copy yesterday. Surprise, there is a sexy photo of Keira Knightly on the cover. I guess someone in the Post Office is having a wacking good time.

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kundor
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 03:47 pm:   

Yes, that is actually the first issue of RoF I've ever picked up. It's been fairly good so far; the folkroots article was very interesting. The stories seem to improve the further back they appear.
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gthorne
Posted on Monday, July 05, 2004 - 04:05 pm:   

I'm really thrilled I stumbled on this site.

Haven't made a sale to F& SF yet but the feedback's encouraging.




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Josh Rountree
Posted on Tuesday, July 06, 2004 - 06:14 am:   

Yeah, the folkroots article is always worth checking out.
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Thursday, July 08, 2004 - 08:44 am:   

I wasn't that impressed with the August issue. Only two stories struck me as okay: Lewis' "The Smell of Magic," and Riedel's "Words & Music." The rest of the stories were pretty forgettable.
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 06:55 am:   

In the October issue, I thought "Embers" was very good. I liked the alternate 19th C frontier feel of the story, and the characters were very well handled.

Tim Pratt's "In a Glass Casket" was also very well done, and I don't usually like urban fantasy.

Tom Gerencer's story was nice and humorous and didn't overstay its welcome.
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TCO
Posted on Tuesday, August 31, 2004 - 03:44 pm:   

Real men don't read fantasy.
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Tim Pratt
Posted on Wednesday, September 01, 2004 - 02:33 pm:   

Thanks, Michael! Lots of people tell me they like my stuff even though they don't usually like contemporary fantasy, which makes me wonder what I'm doing differently. Maybe it's the lack of elves and folk music.
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - 08:22 am:   

I thought the December issue was so-so. The best story was "The Cardinal's Cats," which was very amusing and well-paced. "Talent" by Laura Anne Gilman was interesting as well.

I wish that we had been told more about the authors, since five of them were unknown to me. Only two of them were written up on the Contributor's Page.
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RobRoyH
Posted on Wednesday, December 08, 2004 - 07:57 am:   

I was more impressed with both "The Chamber of Forgetting" by Sarah Prineas and "The Wild Man" by Caitlin Mathews... in that order.

Both stories involved my emotionally at the "gut" lvel. "Cardinal's Cats" was just a light breif entertainmnet... and a welcome one... but not as memorable, to me as the others.

Just MHO of course... I just finished my copy.

But EGAD... the fiction in ROF sure seems to be improving over the past year or two.
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 08:39 am:   

In the most recent issue, I thought "Fir Na Tine" was the best of the bunch. It was surprisingly graphic. Is Realms of Fantasy courting controversy?

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Christopher Rowe
Posted on Monday, February 07, 2005 - 12:20 pm:   

I liked "Fir Na Tine" as well, though I didn't find it graphic. I'm guessing here you mean the sexuality, which was presented in a much more adult fashion than the sexuality presented in some of RoF's past covers (to raise an old issue).

I thought the real keeper from the February issue was "Peas and Carrots" by Michael Canfield, a wonderful bit of recursive fantasy kind of in the Tom Stoppard mode. I liked it well enough to recommend it for a Nebula, and I further recommend it to all of you.
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Tuesday, March 22, 2005 - 07:53 am:   

"Peas and Carrots" was a lot of fun. It reminded me of Woody Allen's "Purple Rose of Cairo."

I just finished the April '05 issue, which I thought was the strongest Realms of Fantasy issue in over a year.

I thought Richard Parks' "Death, the Devil and the Lady in White" was the best this issue, although "The Wooden Baby" and "Christmas Apples" were also very good.
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Thursday, April 21, 2005 - 08:23 am:   

Well, I just read the June issue.

I liked Eugie Foster's "The Storyteller's Wife." Once I started reading this one, I couldn't stop, although it seems that Realms of Fantasy is addicted to "let's bring back a dead loved one" stories. At least Orpheus didn't appear in this story.

I also liked Karen D. Fishler's story. Wow, this was grim and gripping. It reminded me of Robert E. Howard, which is rare for Realms of Fantasy. The only flaw was the title, which I just can't remember because it didn't seem to have any real connection with the story. (And notice that this story could be seen as a reunite with a dead lover story.)
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Saturday, June 25, 2005 - 06:57 am:   

I just finished the August '05 issue. I thought it was rather weak compared to the previous two.

The two stories I liked the best were Richard Park's "The Penultimate Question" and Patrick Samphire's "When the Dragon Falls."
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2005 - 12:38 pm:   

I guess I'm the only one still paying attention here, but here goes nothing.

Finished the October issue, which was better than the August issue. "At the Queen's Hotel" by Kate Riedel was a good story about an accursed wanderer.

Better were "At the Top of the Black Stairs" by Darrell Schweitzer, which really pulled me along to its conclusion. This was one of his better stories. "The Rain God" by Way Jeng was sly and amusing. I wasn't sure I'd like it at first, but it won me over.
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Charlie Finlay
Posted on Saturday, August 27, 2005 - 12:48 pm:   

"The Rain God" is Way's first published fiction. It was one of his submission stories for Clarion this summer.

I think we'll be seeing more of his work.
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Michael Samerdyke
Posted on Thursday, October 20, 2005 - 11:23 am:   

Just read the December issue of Realms of Fantasy.

I thought the Liz Williams story was the best this time. It had a fascinating world and the main character was interesting.

The Tanith Lee and Jane Yolen stories were very well done. Richard Parks' story amused me.

One of the best RoF issues of 2005 in my view.

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